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MATTV



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: OD100 STANDARD VS SE/SE+ Reply with quote

just wanted to know if the SE and SE+ versions can still get that Standard sound as well.... i know the SE+ has lots of gain from the videos i have seen..... i am looking for a nice tight dirty channel with the 80's hair voicing. like an aggressive sound

thoughts?????

seems i am having a difficult time picking the right version for me.

thx MATT
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I have an SH/SE version and I LOVE it to death. TONS of overdrive available on the SE channel and it sounds every bit as good as the standard version and even has a tad less high end than the standard which I think really helps the sound. Not that the standard version sounds bad or anything and I think in fact the standard version is now made with less high end than earlier models. Those crazy Suhr guys are always trying to improve their products and I mean that very much in a good way.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: OD100's Reply with quote

The SE and SE+ are more compressed sounding. The Standard and Standard + are more open sounding. Both have a lot of gain on tap. The SE and SE+ have the most "liquid lead tone" of the bunch. The Standard + is more aggressive and less refined, IMO.

Be mindful that many of the clips online of the SE and SE+ feature guitars with EMG pickups and that certainly effects the overall demonstration of the amps sound.

I've owned the Standard (from 2004), had it modded to the SE (in 2005) and then modded to the Classic + (in 2007) and played the most recent SE + and Standard + at NAMM (January 2008).

One other thing to consider is that I didn't think the SE worked at all with single coils, especially in the bridge position. Its a hot-rodded humbucker loving amp.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the reply's.... i am kinda leaning towards the standard +. i am looking for a mean/aggressive marshall 80's hair band sound. its such a toss up between the standard + and SE+. both have different trannys and tubes..... i also play ALOT of Nickelback songs and thats the SE+ area. i am just iffy on the SE+ voiced compression sound.

it will be used mainly for rythem guitar and some leads.....

thx for the replys.

matt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MATTV wrote:
thx for the reply's.... i am kinda leaning towards the standard +. i am looking for a mean/aggressive marshall 80's hair band sound. its such a toss up between the standard + and SE+. both have different trannys and tubes..... i also play ALOT of Nickelback songs and thats the SE+ area. i am just iffy on the SE+ voiced compression sound.

it will be used mainly for rythem guitar and some leads.....

thx for the replys.

matt


I would consider the Classic Plus. It is a hot rodded Marshall so to speak with Mr. Suhr's magic touch.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need Nickelback/Nu Metal type gain, I'd go Standard+. You also have the boost to push things over the top as well, & you can dial it in with the trim pot inside.

The Classic+ sounds to me more voiced toward classic rock.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDouglee wrote:
If you need Nickelback/Nu Metal type gain, I'd go Standard+. You also have the boost to push things over the top as well, & you can dial it in with the trim pot inside.

The Classic+ sounds to me more voiced toward classic rock.


I agree with the right honorable gentleman from California. Cool

If high gain rhythms are your main deal, go Standard +. Classic + is great, but it can get a little loose sounding for high gain stuff (even though it takes pedals exceptionally well).

One other thing to consider is that most Nickelback songs feature mahogany guitars with EMG's, so you might want to consider that as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: OD100's Reply with quote

Pete Lacis wrote:
The SE and SE+ are more compressed sounding. The Standard and Standard + are more open sounding. Both have a lot of gain on tap. The SE and SE+ have the most "liquid lead tone" of the bunch. The Standard + is more aggressive and less refined, IMO.

Be mindful that many of the clips online of the SE and SE+ feature guitars with EMG pickups and that certainly effects the overall demonstration of the amps sound.

I've owned the Standard (from 2004), had it modded to the SE (in 2005) and then modded to the Classic + (in 2007) and played the most recent SE + and Standard + at NAMM (January 2008).

One other thing to consider is that I didn't think the SE worked at all with single coils, especially in the bridge position. Its a hot-rodded humbucker loving amp.



Pete is probably referring to the clips I have up. The last few I have put up I used Duncan AHB Blackouts. They are still active but have a more open sound than EMG's. I have tried my SE+ with passives and I find it still sounds like "me".
My band does some Nickelback and we pull it off, truth is I am using a PRS Singlecut with actives so we should be able to pull it off. We also do a lot of Journey, the amp does that well as it does the VanHalen 1 stuff too......imho. BTW I do all that with the same amp settings.
I just did a rig for Brad King with an OD100se+ and he thought it sounded unbelievable. He tried it with my PRS and his guitars(passives)...he loves the tone.

Different strokes for different folks.

Mark
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete Lacis wrote:
JDouglee wrote:
If you need Nickelback/Nu Metal type gain, I'd go Standard+. You also have the boost to push things over the top as well, & you can dial it in with the trim pot inside.

The Classic+ sounds to me more voiced toward classic rock.


I agree with the right honorable gentleman from California. Cool


Why thank ya thank ya Pete. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with pretty much everything said here... The SE+ has a looser, smoother feel than the standard+. I love the standard+... It's such an aggressive, biting tone on the bridge pickup. I've never played a nastier amp. I can still get some smoother sounding stuff with the neck pickup, but my favorite tones from the amp is the gnarly bridge stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the great info guys...... anyone have any standard + clips or videos? i can find any of the +'s on you tube or HRI

thx matt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDouglee wrote:
Pete Lacis wrote:
JDouglee wrote:
If you need Nickelback/Nu Metal type gain, I'd go Standard+. You also have the boost to push things over the top as well, & you can dial it in with the trim pot inside.

The Classic+ sounds to me more voiced toward classic rock.


I agree with the right honorable gentleman from California. Cool


Why thank ya thank ya Pete. Cool


Now buy an OD100 ..and loose black sparkle's Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's Silver Sparkle big flake to you buddy.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that i have it narrowed down to the Standard + version.... i have found a OD50 that could be changed to the Standard +

how much aggression would be lost compared to the OD100 STD +?

my guess is that they would be very close...

also the clean should be very close at moderate volume's???

any thoughts.... my first choice would be to 100 over the 50..... seems they are hard to find,,,,

thx matt
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

countandduke wrote:
Hey, I have an SH/SE version and I LOVE it to death. TONS of overdrive available on the SE channel and it sounds every bit as good as the standard version and even has a tad less high end than the standard which I think really helps the sound. Not that the standard version sounds bad or anything and I think in fact the standard version is now made with less high end than earlier models. Those crazy Suhr guys are always trying to improve their products and I mean that very much in a good way.

Take care...

Chris


Hey! I got an SE+! Does SH/SE mean that the CH1 got the SH mod? I love Scott Henderson's tone!
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