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bartmcartman
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 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:24 am Post subject: All mahogany suhr? |
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| Does anyone have a standard or tele with mahogany body and neck and maple cap fitted with H/S/H? How do like the tones compared to the basswood/maple combo? Thanks! |
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Ed Yoon
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Mahogany with Maple cap is going to have more mid-mids and focused punch. Basswood with Maple has more lows and more highs, making the combination sound a bit scooped compared to the Mahogany/Maple combo.
For a Mahogany body guitar, we recommend a Mahogany neck. John and I both feel that Mahogany body with a Maple neck isn't a particularly good marriage. |
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kanak1911
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Ed Yoon wrote: | | For a Mahogany body guitar, we recommend a Mahogany neck. John and I both feel that Mahogany body with a Maple neck isn't a particularly good marriage. |
Hey Ed, would you please elaborate on this please  |
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Ed Yoon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| kanak1911 wrote: | | Ed Yoon wrote: | | For a Mahogany body guitar, we recommend a Mahogany neck. John and I both feel that Mahogany body with a Maple neck isn't a particularly good marriage. |
Hey Ed, would you please elaborate on this please |
Well, that's kind of hard to describe. My first experience of a Mahogany body with Maple neck guitar was a Brian Moore C90 when I was working at Fender. I couldn't really put my finger on it but it just didn't sound or feel right. It was like, "It's not fish nor fowl. So what is it?" Personally, I thought that guitar and other guitars from different manufactuers with that wood combination just felt and sounded weird. Sorry if I can't elaborate any better than this as I can usually describe what I like or don't like fairly well. I just don't think they really resonate well together and that the tone is not particularly well-balanced. There's a good reason why it isn't a commonly featured combination by guitar builders. If someone likes it, that's cool, but it's not a combination that John or I'd recommend. |
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kanak1911
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the comments. From what you explained, I take it that a maple top (mahog. body) has a total different effect on the sound than that of the neck. So what kind of tone does a mahog. neck on a mahog. body w/maple top get? |
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Ed Yoon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| kanak1911 wrote: | | Thanks for the comments. From what you explained, I take it that a maple top (mahog. body) has a total different effect on the sound than that of the neck. So what kind of tone does a mahog. neck on a mahog. body w/maple top get? |
You have to look at it from the point that the body and neck each contribute about 50% of the overall acoustic tone. In the overall scheme, the Maple veneer top on the body will contribute about 10~15% at the most, but John should be able to give you a more accurate number. The Maple top on the body has more of a complementary role that enhances the body's tone while the neck's contribution is vital to the overall sound.
The Mahogany body/Maple top and Mahogany neck is the classic Gibson LP setup. There's a lot of fat mids - more mid-mids than low-mids or high-mids. The combined Mahogany body and neck provides coherence and you know what you're getting - a classic warm midrange sound that has body in the tone and punch that will cut through the mix. The Mahogany and the Maple neck combination seems to cancel out certain frequencies and/or disperse them in a weird manner. The Maple top adds some high-end brilliance to the strong midrange sound provided by Mahogany. |
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bartmcartman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| With all that said, which neck will get me closest to prs wide fat? Or prs regular/standard neck? |
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Schamby
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: One of John's "Medium" Carves Would Be Closest |
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| bartmcartman wrote: | | With all that said, which neck will get me closest to prs wide fat? Or prs regular/standard neck? |
I would say an Even C Medium or Vintage C Medium would be closest to the Wide Fat or Regular. PRS does not list taper depths, so choose the Even C if you prefer little change in depth as you go up the neck, Vintage C if you like more change. Also, John will do 1 11/16" or 1 5/8" nut width, the "11/16" is the same as the PRS Wides, the 1 5/8" is close to the PRS Regular. Here are the details:
Neck Dimensions from PRS Customer Support:
Width of Nut
# Regular - 1 21/32" (1.65625")
# Wide Fat and Wide Thin - 1 11/16" (1.6875")
Depth at Nut
# Regular and Wide Fat - 27/32" (0.84375")
# Wide Thin - 25/32" (0.78125")
10" Fretboard Radius on all guitars except 11 1/2" on the Santana II and Custom 22/12
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John's Closest Neck Dimensions:
Depth at nut and 12th Fret
Even C Medium .840" to .920"
60's C Medium .840" to .950"
Compound Radius 9"-12" or 10"-14" |
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kanak1911
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you for the explanation Ed |
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tfire
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| bartmcartman wrote: | | With all that said, which neck will get me closest to prs wide fat? Or prs regular/standard neck? |
I have a wide-fat PRS. An Even C Huge is closer to it than an Even C Medium. (I have both of those.)
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brunova
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject: Mahogany Q :?: |
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Which pickup combination do you reccomend for a mahogany body/neck guitar with HSH 
Is there more than one option
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Ed Yoon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Mahogany Q :?: |
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| brunova wrote: | Which pickup combination do you reccomend for a mahogany body/neck guitar with HSH
Is there more than one option
Thanks |
All of our humbuckers should sound fine with this wood combination - it just depends on what kind of sounds you are looking for. The SSH+, V60LP, and the SSV or the DSV in the neck should be very versatile and provide both great classic and modern high-gain sounds. |
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Wallsy
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I Have a Mahog/Maple Body with Mahog/RW Neck.. H-H and Carve Top... Sounds devine..... it is not often I quote Meatloaf but she has "a heart of gold and a voice like a horny angel!" and the best looking guitar in the world (I am a bit bias though!)  Mahog body and neck with Humbuckers are tried and tested... Don't think you would go too far wrong!!
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brainstatic
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| what finish is that? |
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enr1co
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ed Yoon wrote: | | kanak1911 wrote: | | Thanks for the comments. From what you explained, I take it that a maple top (mahog. body) has a total different effect on the sound than that of the neck. So what kind of tone does a mahog. neck on a mahog. body w/maple top get? |
The Mahogany body/Maple top and Mahogany neck is the classic Gibson LP setup. There's a lot of fat mids - more mid-mids than low-mids or high-mids. The combined Mahogany body and neck provides coherence and you know what you're getting - a classic warm midrange sound that has body in the tone and punch that will cut through the mix. The Mahogany and the Maple neck combination seems to cancel out certain frequencies and/or disperse them in a weird manner. The Maple top adds some high-end brilliance to the strong midrange sound provided by Mahogany. |
I just purchased a Koa top/mahogany T w/ a maple neck/African rswd board. A classic warm midrange seems to be still prevalent despite the maple neck. The combination also seems to provide a nice clarity overall. Perhaps the koa cap affects the combination differently that
a maple cap?
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